I have seen this and put it on my stack...I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF READERS, YOU SHALL SEE MORE interest in your good work, thank you for this scholarship.
Thank you Roxanne, for assembling this account and review. I am in possession of a Freedom of Information Access (FOIA) with the BC Ministry of Health asking for the research that they relied on to acclaim the mRNA vaccines as both "safe" and "effective". In their reply (three months late) they admitted to finding nothing -- ie. no research to support "safe" and nothing to support "effective".
Thanks Roxanne. As there is/was no virus, only the seasonal 'flu weaponised to push vaccines etc., the matter is rather academic. Nevertheless David N. Fisman was used to promote the lies. I note he is Jewish according to Wikipedia which is no surprise; there are more than their fair share of Jews behind all this.
It all seems slow progress in Canada but you and others keep chipping away which is great.
I am on board with you Roxanne with respect to the demonizing of the unvaccinated..it was awful.
But I question some of the inferences you are making from the data you presented. You mention that the majority of cases, hospitalizations were in the vaccinated but they were a much larger group of the population. 80 percent or more of the population was vaccinated hence you would still expect there to be more of them who were infected or hospitalized. They were effectively 4 times the size of the unvaccinated. So the data that really counts is relative to the size of each group. Even with vaccinartion many were infected and ended up in hospital. Even if there were double the numbers of vaccinated versus unvaccinated then that doesnt imply the vaccine wasnt working..in fact it would be the opposite as the vaccinated population was 4 times the unvaccinated. You need to look at each group per 1000 people. Hence what was the hospitalization rate per 1000 of vaccinated versus hospitalization rate per 1000 people of the unvaccinated. One argument was that the vaccination srtill reduced serious illness and death and I havent seen numbers so far to show otherwise. It certainly did not prevent transmission.
I saw too many people during the pandemic looking at just actual cases and then trying to argue that that showed that vaccinated people are more likely to end up in the hospital without mentioning that there are at least 4 times more vaccinated people. As well the weakest of society..the sick, frail, diseased and elderly are way more likely to have been vaccinated or boosted than the healthy and young. These are the ones most likely to end up in icu or die even with the vaccine. The unvaccinated were typically healthy and younger people so even if they caught covid they often didnt get too sick. Even though I agree with your main points about how poorly treated the unvaccinated were and how awful the government treated people we need to be fair and clear when interpreting the data.
The data I got and the conclusions reached came from a study based on Ontario Health statistics that was released in June of 2022. It was, believe it or not, prepared for the Liberal government, but from what I can tell it never saw the light of day. Who they contracted to conduct the study is redacted in the copy I have. This is what the study said, regarding the pie charts and I quote, "Overall there are six times more fully vaccinated cases in ICU than unvaccinated and 5 times more fully vaccinated cases in hospital than unvaccinated"
In the summary that study said "1. Full vaccination does not prevent infection and hospitalization. Even full vaccination with a booster does not prevent infection or hospitalization. 2. In mid-Apr 2021 less than 3% of Canadians were fully vaccinated, most cases in hospital were unvaccinated. In mid-Jan. 2022 when 77% were fully vaccinated there were more vaccinated cases in hospital than unvaccinated. Then the third point in the summary is what l quoted earlier. From my own personal experience on the matter I can say this. Both my husband and I were 'fully vaxxed in June of 2021. We had the AstraZeneca shots. But once they started introducing the boosters and telling us we could mix and match vaccines we were done. Based on what we've been told, that being that the vaccines were only good for about four months before needing boosters I consider myself no longer vaccinated against COVID. The thing is neither my husband and I, who are both in our late sixties ever got COVID. Yet people I knew who had gotten vaxxed and boosted and boosted, got COVID as many as four times! It is true that the old and sick, who were more likely to get vaccinated, could end up in hospital if they got infected, but the study I am referencing also indicates the the only people that actually benefited from the vaccines were over 70. As well, Dr. Watteel, who is a statistician, when she is discussing COVID case rates of the vaxxed versus the unvaxxed, rates takes the ratio into account and still finds more vaxxed infected on a per capita basis. You might want to give her book a read.
Regardless, as you say, to concoct a study using faulty modelling rather than real world data to villify the unvaccinated is particularly egregious. I would send you a copy of the study, but it is pdf'd in such away that I cannot seem to attach it to an email.
Ok thanks for the clarification. Maybe I will grab her book. I would like to have a closer look at these stats. I also had read that the more boosters you got the more people actually got covid. I also believe that boosters are also correlated with people getting more cancers and I have anecdotally seen this. Dr Campbell spoke with a cancer expert from the UK on this and it seems that each booster strains the immune system which results in less T cells produced. Its these T cells which also attack cancer cells early on..hence fewere of these would allow cancer to grow more quickly. There was also some reference as to the nano lipid particles in the vaccines also possibly contributing to increased cancers but its seems that it was mainly for people who had 3 shots or more. Luckily everyone in our family only had 2 shots. I didnt want any but the pressure was so strong even from my family to get it that I finally did but I regret now.
I am assuming your talking about John Campbell who has been tracking the excess death rates. Yes I have also read that the boosters strain the immune system. My husband and I got vaccinated so we wouldn't have any hassles travelling because our only daughter lives in BC and was having a tough time during COVID. I am glad we ended up getting the AZ shots because they are not gene based. Our daughter, however, had to get the Moderna shots in order to attend university. And she got COVID anyway. We told her not to get any boosters because she didn't need them, because she had already had COVID. Unfortunately due to peer pressure from some friends she went a got boosted last fall. We were not happy about that. She's 28. The AZ shots were limited to people over 60 when she got her shots. That was because of the blood clot issues with AZ. The reason they stopped giving AZ to younger people was because the risk of getting a blood clot from AZ was greater than younger people getting a severe case of COVID. Try that logic on. So they already knew that young people were at a low risk of getting a severe case of COVID, but they were forcing them to take the shots anyway. And I do mean forcing, otherwise lose a year of university.
The mind reels reading an account like yours....and knowing that there are so many other similar stories of people scrambling around during that awful time of coercion and deceit.
The vaccine was working James, doing what vaccines always do which are poison people. I used to think vaccines were of some use but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway. My wife had a 'flu vaccine in 1989 and was promptly ill for 3 days.
Since 2020 I realised that all vaccines are a scam and cannot do any more than harm or maybe kill. Poisons/toxic substances cannot be expected to do otherwise.
I have seen this and put it on my stack...I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF READERS, YOU SHALL SEE MORE interest in your good work, thank you for this scholarship.
Thank you, I appreciate any efforts to increase readership. I have a follow up piece on this article coming out shortly.
Thank you Roxanne, for assembling this account and review. I am in possession of a Freedom of Information Access (FOIA) with the BC Ministry of Health asking for the research that they relied on to acclaim the mRNA vaccines as both "safe" and "effective". In their reply (three months late) they admitted to finding nothing -- ie. no research to support "safe" and nothing to support "effective".
I am not surprised.
WOW! Thank you for this break down of the fraudulent research and exposing once again how corrupt our government and its agencies are.
Thanks Roxanne. As there is/was no virus, only the seasonal 'flu weaponised to push vaccines etc., the matter is rather academic. Nevertheless David N. Fisman was used to promote the lies. I note he is Jewish according to Wikipedia which is no surprise; there are more than their fair share of Jews behind all this.
It all seems slow progress in Canada but you and others keep chipping away which is great.
I am on board with you Roxanne with respect to the demonizing of the unvaccinated..it was awful.
But I question some of the inferences you are making from the data you presented. You mention that the majority of cases, hospitalizations were in the vaccinated but they were a much larger group of the population. 80 percent or more of the population was vaccinated hence you would still expect there to be more of them who were infected or hospitalized. They were effectively 4 times the size of the unvaccinated. So the data that really counts is relative to the size of each group. Even with vaccinartion many were infected and ended up in hospital. Even if there were double the numbers of vaccinated versus unvaccinated then that doesnt imply the vaccine wasnt working..in fact it would be the opposite as the vaccinated population was 4 times the unvaccinated. You need to look at each group per 1000 people. Hence what was the hospitalization rate per 1000 of vaccinated versus hospitalization rate per 1000 people of the unvaccinated. One argument was that the vaccination srtill reduced serious illness and death and I havent seen numbers so far to show otherwise. It certainly did not prevent transmission.
James
Argue with Dr. Watteel.
I saw too many people during the pandemic looking at just actual cases and then trying to argue that that showed that vaccinated people are more likely to end up in the hospital without mentioning that there are at least 4 times more vaccinated people. As well the weakest of society..the sick, frail, diseased and elderly are way more likely to have been vaccinated or boosted than the healthy and young. These are the ones most likely to end up in icu or die even with the vaccine. The unvaccinated were typically healthy and younger people so even if they caught covid they often didnt get too sick. Even though I agree with your main points about how poorly treated the unvaccinated were and how awful the government treated people we need to be fair and clear when interpreting the data.
The data I got and the conclusions reached came from a study based on Ontario Health statistics that was released in June of 2022. It was, believe it or not, prepared for the Liberal government, but from what I can tell it never saw the light of day. Who they contracted to conduct the study is redacted in the copy I have. This is what the study said, regarding the pie charts and I quote, "Overall there are six times more fully vaccinated cases in ICU than unvaccinated and 5 times more fully vaccinated cases in hospital than unvaccinated"
In the summary that study said "1. Full vaccination does not prevent infection and hospitalization. Even full vaccination with a booster does not prevent infection or hospitalization. 2. In mid-Apr 2021 less than 3% of Canadians were fully vaccinated, most cases in hospital were unvaccinated. In mid-Jan. 2022 when 77% were fully vaccinated there were more vaccinated cases in hospital than unvaccinated. Then the third point in the summary is what l quoted earlier. From my own personal experience on the matter I can say this. Both my husband and I were 'fully vaxxed in June of 2021. We had the AstraZeneca shots. But once they started introducing the boosters and telling us we could mix and match vaccines we were done. Based on what we've been told, that being that the vaccines were only good for about four months before needing boosters I consider myself no longer vaccinated against COVID. The thing is neither my husband and I, who are both in our late sixties ever got COVID. Yet people I knew who had gotten vaxxed and boosted and boosted, got COVID as many as four times! It is true that the old and sick, who were more likely to get vaccinated, could end up in hospital if they got infected, but the study I am referencing also indicates the the only people that actually benefited from the vaccines were over 70. As well, Dr. Watteel, who is a statistician, when she is discussing COVID case rates of the vaxxed versus the unvaxxed, rates takes the ratio into account and still finds more vaxxed infected on a per capita basis. You might want to give her book a read.
Regardless, as you say, to concoct a study using faulty modelling rather than real world data to villify the unvaccinated is particularly egregious. I would send you a copy of the study, but it is pdf'd in such away that I cannot seem to attach it to an email.
Ok thanks for the clarification. Maybe I will grab her book. I would like to have a closer look at these stats. I also had read that the more boosters you got the more people actually got covid. I also believe that boosters are also correlated with people getting more cancers and I have anecdotally seen this. Dr Campbell spoke with a cancer expert from the UK on this and it seems that each booster strains the immune system which results in less T cells produced. Its these T cells which also attack cancer cells early on..hence fewere of these would allow cancer to grow more quickly. There was also some reference as to the nano lipid particles in the vaccines also possibly contributing to increased cancers but its seems that it was mainly for people who had 3 shots or more. Luckily everyone in our family only had 2 shots. I didnt want any but the pressure was so strong even from my family to get it that I finally did but I regret now.
I am assuming your talking about John Campbell who has been tracking the excess death rates. Yes I have also read that the boosters strain the immune system. My husband and I got vaccinated so we wouldn't have any hassles travelling because our only daughter lives in BC and was having a tough time during COVID. I am glad we ended up getting the AZ shots because they are not gene based. Our daughter, however, had to get the Moderna shots in order to attend university. And she got COVID anyway. We told her not to get any boosters because she didn't need them, because she had already had COVID. Unfortunately due to peer pressure from some friends she went a got boosted last fall. We were not happy about that. She's 28. The AZ shots were limited to people over 60 when she got her shots. That was because of the blood clot issues with AZ. The reason they stopped giving AZ to younger people was because the risk of getting a blood clot from AZ was greater than younger people getting a severe case of COVID. Try that logic on. So they already knew that young people were at a low risk of getting a severe case of COVID, but they were forcing them to take the shots anyway. And I do mean forcing, otherwise lose a year of university.
The mind reels reading an account like yours....and knowing that there are so many other similar stories of people scrambling around during that awful time of coercion and deceit.
The vaccine was working James, doing what vaccines always do which are poison people. I used to think vaccines were of some use but not for the 'flu as people fell ill anyway. My wife had a 'flu vaccine in 1989 and was promptly ill for 3 days.
Since 2020 I realised that all vaccines are a scam and cannot do any more than harm or maybe kill. Poisons/toxic substances cannot be expected to do otherwise.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and